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    Just a couple of "questions" about these damn films sterotypes.
    1). Why is it in almost every period peice(I said almost every so don't throw dozens of exceptions in my face)the people are hornier then a stuck dog? I mean do we really believe Queen Mary had a neckline that plunged deeper then a U-Boat? Or how bout that guy in Rob Roy? My God!

    2). Why is it even though the villan has shown better mental abilities, better fighting skills, and better all round charisma then the hero, he always dies? The hero should get the sh-- beat outa him then maybe the world would be better.

    3). Lastly on the note of the above ^ why is it that the villan always wants to destroy or take over the world? I mean if he destroys the world he's too and who would want to rule a hole like this?

    Foolman you should make a movie about that.



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    In response:

    a. The ahem... enhanced sexual libido of period characters. I'm not too sure of what you're talking about, Rob Roy wasn't too sexual. If you're talking about sexual candour, it should be Jane Campion's THE PIANO. Usually, sexuality arises out of the fact that these characters are unable to express themselves. Most period films have basis in novels. Most novels are conservative in approach, even Moll Flanders and Vanity Fair didn't have any sort of lewd sexual familiarity to it, but we all know it's there so directors and the like need to show that they are truly beings of a sexual nature.

    second, a period movie that 'we' the general audience are likely to see must come from the drawing tables of HOllywood and in this strange but true land, there is no such thing as a 'villian' who is allowed to live. (even LA Confidential, they had to kill the 'villian' even though he was more intelligent, more charismatic and more powerful. This did not happen in the novel but regarding that film, a great many things didn't happen in the novel.)

    and your third question, villians wanting global dominion is seemingly the only motivating force Hollywood is able to provide for those naturally prone to evil. Revenge is reserved for the heroes.



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    A few, things not quite following what you first said, but still on the subject of stereotypes.
    Ok, why in American Movies, do they portray all British people, to either be Country Bumpkins with ab no brain, or rich idiots with a accent like they're a member of the royal family??
    Anywayz hope you're all having fun

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    WAR Film Cliches

    ? You're very likely to survive any battle in any war, unless you show someone a picture of your sweetheart back home.
    ? Every army platoon has at least one, usually black, member who can play the harmonica.
    ? All G.I.s know how to make a still out of a jeep radiator.
    ? If a soldier tries to look up an old buddy who was transfered to different unit, the buddy will be dead, or will die shortly there after.
    ? If a main character dies, his sweetheart back home will have nightmare at that exact same moment
    ? New replacements always get killed before you can even learn their names.
    ? The hero's weapon is always different from everyone elses.
    ? Every unit has a "Scrounge" who can get you anything from an atomic bomb to a date with the general's daughter for a bottle of cheap scotch, or vice-versa.
    ? The platoon sargeant never has a grenade on him, so he always asks someone else for the grenade, then pulls the pin out with his teeth. (which will usually cause you to lose teeth before extracting the pin!)
    ? Everyone who joins an Airborne (parachute) outfit doesn't understand why anyone would jump out of perfectly good airplane.
    ? Elite units (Special Forces, Rangers, Commandos) are always recruited from convicts and other socially degenerate segments of society.
    ? Elite units are always considered expendable even though they cost much much more to train and maintain.
    ? Roger, wilco -- over and out. nuff said. Radio transmission are always improper.
    ? The German Army always uses U. S. Patton Tanks.
    ? Cannons, howitzers, and main tank guns NEVER recoil, unless its old documentary footage.
    ? The battle hardened vet will always fall on a grenade for the new guy, rather than picking up the grenade and throwing it away, or jumping out of the fox hole.
    ? Fox holes never have overhead protection, or grenade pits.
    ? Only the "Japs" and the "VC" bother to use booby traps.
    ? German soldier always wear grey uniforms and jack-boots, though these uniforms were pretty much pahsed out by mid 1943.
    ? SS soldiers always wear their black uniform.
    ? The British Army is only allowed to fight in North Africa, and even then only elite forces other than the LRDG and SAS are allowed to fight.
    ? Only the Marines fought the war in the Pacific. No Army personnel were involved.
    ? The military hero always carries a special knife with an 11 inch + blade and a hollow handle with all sorts of gadgets. (most soldiers stick with the standard bayonet [6 in blade], Marine Corps Fighting knife [7 in blade], or airforce [5 1/2 in blade] survival knife. None have hollow handles because hollow handles break too easily).
    ? Snipers always know exactly where someone will pop there head out of trench and soldiers in trenches never use mirrors or periscopes, like they did in World War One.
    ? Any kid, or dog for that matter can wonder around through an artillery barrage and not get killed while half the outfit will alway get wiped out.
    ? No one will shoot the hero and the battle will even come to a stand still while the hero cries in agony and curse that "it should've been him" when his best friend steps on the land mine/get blown up/ dies charging the machine gun nest. The battle will resume as soon as the hero gets over his grief and gets angry. The hero will be victorious within 45 seconds of becoming angry.
    ? Any machine gun nest can be approached from behind without dificulty, but not until half the unit has been wiped out.
    ? Soldiers will ask for keys for military vehicles eventhough these vehicles dont use keys.
    ? If soldiers start to eat/drink/change socks/go to the bathroom, they will get orders to move out immediately.
    ? Soldiers will always make a comment about the food, usually something along the line of "I stepped in it but I've never ate it" or "if we feed this to the ?krauts? we'd win the war tomorrow".
    ? Soldiers and sailors must have at least on bar room brawl usually followed by a scene where they come to each others mutual aid the next day.
    ? There has to be a scene involving giving chocolate to children or nylons/cigarettes to women in a WW II movie. The soldiers never try to take advantage of the situation by asking for sexual favors in return.
    ? There is also an obligatory scene where a soldier reads a travel brochure about beautiful Italy/Germany/France/Guam/ while the camera pans across the blown up country side.
    ? If the travel guide scene is omitted, you'll be treated with the scene where a soldier comments about how nice everything looks, too bad there's a war going on, he's going to come back when this is all over. He'll be shot by a sniper shortly after this scene.


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    Chance... you took your forces training way too seriously.
    Although I wish I had taken more note as I got shot by a Gurkha on my Infantry Platoon Commander's course. For some reason the Gurkhas always played "enemy". Nice chaps that they are.
    Anyway... back to my screenplay as I sit here in sunny USA on preproduction for my short.... chow xxx


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    The british protray the Americans as money grubbing adulators and the Americans portray the Brits as dumbass hicks.
    Maybe its ing mistrust from that little spat 300 years ago, who knows?
    I didn't take time to read all of the war cliches but why is it that if you lead a unit in the end you always die unless history dictates otherwise? Oh well we can sit here and complain as Hollywood makes another "Pearl Harbor".

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    Continuing the Brit stereotypes, why do so many of the characters with educated English accent turn out to be villains.

    In fact, Rush Hour was a good one for that. Any 'friend' of the president/prime minister/king/leader who betrays them will be white and middle class, often with dark hair.

    Also, with the exception of Bruce Willis, more villains than heroes are left-handed or balding.

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    As one man (It wasn't me) said "The british are inherently terrfiying..." Whats scarier then a Brit? A smart Brit! (apologies to all British who frequesnt this forum, but truthfully...am I wrong?)

    One last thing that really isn't a sterotype: Do people really think it's funny seeing a 90 year old woman chasing a 22 year old man?(see the credits of "Runaway Bride" I mean I find it repulsive and gross. It makes me wanna take a bath in the Holy Water.


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    Sorry now-but what about Irish Stereotypes-neither American/British TV/Cinema has ever made an effort to portray the Irish in a proper light. Yes America:
    We're always drunk and always inept.
    We have no cities, we live in huts.
    We are totally unfamiliar with any music other than Irish traditional.
    We are all farmers or publicans.
    All the women have red hair.
    We all talk in dat stupid accent to be sure.

    Top of da morning to all you MORONS

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    left handed villians?
    Didnt you know that being left handed is a mark of the beast? (apologies to any one left handed out there)

    Also as far as killing bad guys is concerned (ie: Fatal Attraction / Cape Fear type thing) to truly destroy evil you must kill each of its three incarnations or bodies.

    These are ancient myths.

    Stereotypes or Archetypes?

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